Soccer: Re: [lfc] re: I wonder what Sarah makes of this.......................

Re: [lfc] re: I wonder what Sarah makes of this.......................

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2010/11/1 Hee Koon <skthk@hmm21.com>
> The question is WHY NOT ?
> Why can't we beat Chelsea ?

We can. But do you honestly expect us to? Do not confuse hope and expectation.

> (Well I try not to bet, especially for me I can't bet on Pools to lose games or Manu to win.)

The odds usually reflect the expectations. I guess Chelsea should be
slight favourites to win. But then again we could produce the best
performance of the season and win.

> What's the odds that Joe Cole scores the winner ?

Dunno. Haven't checked :) What are the odds he'll be fit to play?

> We nearly did it against Arsenal. Arsenal also struggle to beat West Ham at home.

But they did didn't they? That's what counts. Not to mention that they
played much better and deserved to win.

> Chelsea should have gone 2-1 down (what a miss) b4 they scored at the other end.
>
> If fans & even players think there's no chance against Chelsea even b4 a ball is kick - then we already lost.

Sol didn't say we don't stand a chance. he was responding to your
comment "we will beat Chelsea next week" which implies you are
confident/100% of a win.

ilker

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: soleman18@gmail.com
> To: lfc@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 4:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [lfc] re: I wonder what Sarah makes of this.......................
>
> What you should appreciate is the manager does not get the flack just when we are losing games. He gets it both ways because he is incompetent to manage Liverpool.
>
> Why don't you put your money where your mouth is if you think we'll beat Chelsea and give the winnings to the Hillsborough fund!
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Hee Koon" <skthk@hmm21.com>
> Sender: lfc@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 09:58:31
> To: <lfc@yahoogroups.com>
> Reply-To: lfc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [lfc] re: I wonder what Sarah makes of this.......................
>
> Holy Shit ! We won & getting all these moans etc .............
> Imagine what if we had drew or lost
>
> Give the man a chance, Everything he does now is being attack that its sick to read.
> Can't he named a unchanged side ? its the best XI he can chose now.
> rather than Rafa who keeps to chop & change
> Judge him after he gets his own players.
>
> Hahahah, when did rafa played every game to win ? He was criticized for being "scare to lose", thus not brave enought to go for it.
> & he changes our tatics to counter the opp team even thought ya its against the Boltons, or whatever lower teams.
> & he's "we concentrate on the next game. " " I gurantee 4th"
> Why pay him Millions when we finish 7th & he went to Inter ?
>
> Next week we will beat Chelsea.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Sol Hoolash
> To: lfc@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 2:37 AM
> Subject: RE: [lfc] re: I wonder what Sarah makes of this.......................
>
> Sol: I was having the similar thought the other day but in a different context but I could be wrong.
>
> I used to quote that one thing that Rafa was not very good at was media handling in specific when managing the expectations of the fans. He had the right attitude in approaching games no matter who we were playing, that is " We always go for the win!" Every game became a must win game and when we drew or lost, it was difficult to swallow!
>
> The way I see now is Roy has completely change this approach. He says to the fans that we are rubbish, the opposition are brilliant, the owners need to invest, our players are lacking confidence, Rafa left poor players to work with etc, etc. So in return we, the fans tend not to expect much from any game we play. Like today for example, it felt like a surprise that we won. So if we win, it's a miracle, if we draw or lose, well that's our level and we need to get use to it!
>
> Basically he is trying to manage our expectations but he going the absolute wrong way about it! His 10 games are up...thank you Roy before we find ourselves back in the bottom three again!
>
> Colin Rowlands
>
> There just seems to be so many interviews or quotes from him when he is under no obligation to make them so often, it has reached the point where he seems like he is trying to say enough to get himself sacked and pick up a nice pay day for a few months work.
>
> The only other possibility is that these interviews are computer generated from a template since the normally consist of some combination or all of the following:
>
> hyping the opposition team or specific player,
> denigrating or failing to defend the playing staff,
> sniping at fans or other managers or the rare journo that doesn't back him,
> downplaying expectations,
> hyping his own record,
> blaming others for any failings.
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