Soccer

He finished his quota for unsuccessful results too soon after 4
defeats in 8 league games and elimination from Euro league. The team
started the previous season in fine form banging in the goals left,
right and center. The team included Arda, Kewell, Elano (from Citeh)
Baros, Keita and Jo came in the Jan. window on loan so the stuff was
good for most parts of the previous season but a dodgy keeper and
string of injuries meant they finished 3rd. Things were looking good
for this season until the directors decided to sell Elano, Keita and
refused to buy Jo. The replacements were not of required standard (a
case of Rafa's famous sofa-table lamp analogy), then Arda and Baros
got injured, and after a couple of poor displays the press (as in
other countries) got on his back and he left even though the board
would have liked to give him more time but the impatient fans had to
appeased. I guess he also shot himself in the foot when he insisted on
mostly playing 433 and soemtimes 4231 against every opponent when he
didn't have the players (esp. this season) to do it so too many times
the team was in trouble defensively. He did look clueless at times,
like a man with no plan B but he has helped develop a couple of
youngsters and he wasn't shy to take risks with them. I wouldn't take
his Galatasaray episode too seriously as the following managers have
also worked in Turkey and been sacked beacuse they were deemed to be
"not good enough": Hiddink, Lowe, Del Bosque, One thing though: I
think a manager's no.2 can be very important in some cases. Look what
happened after Pako left. Wilkins gone, Chelsea go pear shaped. Fergie
suffered for a while without Queiros and I've read somewhere that
after Ten Cate left for Ajax, Rijkaard found things harder. Maybe
there is some truth in it?

ilker

2010/12/31 Bill Thomas <anfield@me.com>
> Okay, it seems that Frank Rijkard is at least according to this
>
> http://www.oddschecker.com/football/football-specials/liverpool-specials/next-permanent-manager
>
> the favourite for the post. He did very well at Barca and probably laid the ground work for their current success. He's available, having been fired by Galatasaray. So, what was the problem at Galatasaray?

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Just like no one gives a shite about Germany over here, but then that's another story

As john cleese said "don't mention the war" NZ was an important
part of the commonwealth in two world wars and I find your remark derogatory

We had the highest proportion of casualties per population of any country all because
we stood beside mother England.

Have your little battles with John if you must but don't insult my country.

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From: lfc@yahoogroups.com [mailto:lfc@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Colin Rowlands
Sent: Saturday, 1 January 2011 2:09 a.m.
To: lfc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [lfc] Re: FT Spoiler

>
> And you'll probably find most Scousers don't really care what cuts it
> down
> under
>

You could probably alter that to most of the world doesn't really care what cuts it in
NZ.

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Happy new year, Roy hodgson happy new carerear new years wish hope you go soon

On Sat, 01 Jan 2011 01:56 GMT Jimmy A wrote:

>Hoping you see yer wishes come through both on a LFC and a personal side of things.....
>
>
>starting with our custodians getting the right man in to bring the club forward for the next few years....
>
>bye bye Mr Roy......
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Hoping you see yer wishes come through both on a LFC and a personal side of things.....

starting with our custodians getting the right man in to bring the club forward for the next few years....

bye bye Mr Roy......

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Andy - Happy New Year :-)

Do you know if Vladimir Smicer is still in Prague ?

Regards,

- Bob... still working :-(

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From: andym2210
To: lfc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2011 12:26 AM
Subject: [lfc] Happy New Year To All

Hopefully we get off to a great start with 3 points against Bolton and a new
manager before our next game

Andy in a cold Prague

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Happy New Year to one and all!

Feeling the love in 2011!

Malcolm

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From: "j_scorson@xtra.co.nz" <j_scorson@xtra.co.nz>
To: lfc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, December 31, 2010 4:39:31 PM
Subject: Re: [lfc] Re: FT Spoiler

Trophies don't just come out of thin air, mate. A winning side has to be built
by a winning mind. Your flippant demands are an insult to what Shankly, Paisley
and "Dalgleish" achieved

U r twisting what i am saying to suit your post.

will say though 'u must are being very modest in saying "a few
missteps"...Alonso ..misstep or big screw up, openly attacking another manager
be it "head scum" [my own disslike of SCUM as a whole] or not to mention a
couple

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From: guiseppemiguel@gmail.com
To: LFC list
Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2011 11:06 AM
Subject: Re: [lfc] Re: FT Spoiler

Trophies don't just come out of thin air, mate. A winning side has to be built
by a winning mind. Your flippant demands are an insult to what Shankly, Paisley
and "Dalgleish" achieved.

Rafa was on the cusp. What do you think is above 2nd? We spent half that season
in first and would have finished the job if it wasn't for G&H, a few untimely
injuries and, sure, a few missteps.

Now we're 12th with 22 points from 18 games, the lowest total going into the new
year since the 1953-54 season, which ended in relegation. Which shows the heroic
job a certain Spanish manager was doing in the face of major obstacles.

Joe
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Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2011 10:48:09
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In terms of nationalities it probably is the same in reverse for many... being a
hand bagball nation, Apologies for the misspelling of SCOUSER but not for my
wanting Liverpool back where they were in the time of Shankly, Paisley and
Dalgleish, "nothing less will ever be acceptable" 4th, 3rd, 2nd..not for me, in
the long run Winning Trophies is what i want to see.
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From: ladyinred
To: lfc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2011 2:05 AM
Subject: Re: [lfc] Re: FT Spoiler

On Friday 31 December 2010, j_scorson@xtra.co.nz wrote:
> If the cap fits, I call a great manager a great manager by what they have
> achieved not what they nearly achieved,

Nobody called Rafa great. Your constant derogatory references on the other
hand are out of order

> I am not a Scowser by blood so i
> don't fully understand that way of life in Liverpool but over here "nearly"
> doesn't cut it.

You understand very little about Liverpool or the football club.

Oh...and it's Scouser not Scowser.

As for "nearly" - I don't know what planet you live on but in the real world
Liverpool are financially the poor relation to Chelsea, United, Arsenal and
Citeh - possibly also now Spurs. The fact that we nearly got there - for the
most part without our two best players, and played with such style was an
achievement. The fact that we also competed so well regularly in the
Champions League was also an achievement.

And you'll probably find most Scousers don't really care what cuts it down
under

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Don't u get it colin, I DON'T CARE about Benetiz anymore, He was great for 2 yrs only, that i will always remember and be grateful for but after that he didn't win a thing for us
and started his downward spiral to getting the boot with stupid management...u must see that to be true, 2nd is only the best loser, Winning trophies is what counts. CL promotion is great but winning it, like the FA Cup, league cup is what i want to see at Liverpool, WINNING TROPHIES, That is success not 2nd, 3rd or worse.

----- Original Message -----
From: Colin Rowlands
To: lfc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2011 2:49 AM
Subject: RE: [lfc] Re: FT Spoiler

>
> LOL, Thats scarey, ....Best finish for a while but still haven't quite
> got their in 20yrs, Workin on it though, hodgson will see to that
> ...LOL

With every post from you I am more and more convinced you are just a
troll on here as a wind up because however simply people explain things
it just doesn't seem to register with you.

Just look at the stuff in this thread from you, how many people have to
tell you that it is unacceptable to call a manager that won us the CL
and spoke out about the damage being done by G&H a twat before it sinks
in?

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If by "quickly followed" he means one full season. Grady Little lasted long enough to make one of the biggest managerial mistakes in Red Sox history, leaving in exhausted starting pitcher Pedro Martinez to blow a big lead in the decisive Game 7 of the 2003 American League Championship Series.

We all know he should go, but it's pretty clear Woy, barring a complete and utter disaster of unimaginable proportions, is going to get the full season before being replaced.

I'm sure they already have potential replacements in mind.

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On Thu, 30 Dec 2010, Keith Anderson wrote:

> A mate who follows baseball, and in particular the Yankees, tells me
> when NESV took over the Red Sox, the first person to go was the GM and
> he was quickly followed by the coach...

we can only hope...

i desparately can't want us to lose but i'm almost in that position coming
in to the Bolton game. if we can't beat Wolves at home we're almost
odds-on to lose against Bolton who have a manager not afraid to attack and
who has rejuvenated their side. of course, a team that comes and has a go
should help us because we won't have to try our inept attempts to break
down a 9-man defense. if we win it'll be good for us but unfortunately
also good for the clown in charge.

you have to believe that if we got 2 points or less from the next two
league games, and a thumping by the Mancs in the Cup and he'd have to go
but i have the feeling that he isn't going to do the honourable thing so
it's up to the board to sack him. the question is will they...?



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