>> I think any invocation of TLW is pretty much redundant in the aftermath 
 >> of the G&H era,
 
 Now that is something we both agree on and, I think, is the most damning 
 indictment of their regime as a whole.
 
 >>
  but it does seem like too many people take the media
 shorthand of TLW only meaning that we don't sack managers when that is
 simply a side effect of the crucial point which is collective
 responsibility and an idea that Roy has completely ignored with his
 blame shifting and credit taking.
 <<
 
 I agree with all of that Colin - absolutely and without reservation.
 
 However, I simply refuse to lower my own standards and beliefs in TLW simply 
 because the manager is percieved to be at fault.
 
 Just because Roy doesn't "get it" doesn't mean we should act the same.
 
 Online petitions ? "Hodgson for England" ? Hoping we lose our next game(s) ? 
 Accepting it is OK for players to be pissed off on the field ?
 
 That, for me, is not what TLW is about and not something I could ever 
 embrace in a million years, no matter how much I wanted a change of 
 management.
 
 My biggest fear is that the longer this goes on, the greater the chance our 
 younger supporters will see it as "the norm" - and TLW will be lost forever.
 
 So call me old fashioned, call me wrong, misguided, romantic or even 
 protecting my business interests ! - but I can't subscribe to any of the of 
 the methods we are starting to employ.
 
 Got to work now... but I will leave you with some photos of happier days 
 from our breakfast with Didi last week...
 
 http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm3/acaf2008/SDC14927.jpg
 
 http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm3/acaf2008/SDC14908.jpg
 
 http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm3/acaf2008/SDC14912.jpg
 
 http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm3/acaf2008/SDC14920.jpg
 
 http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm3/acaf2008/SDC14906.jpg
 
 http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm3/acaf2008/SDC14905.jpg
 
 http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm3/acaf2008/SDC14907.jpg
 
 Seems a lifetime ago, doesn't it...
 
 REDS !
 
 ----- Original Message ----- 
 From: Colin Rowlands
 To: lfc@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Friday, December 31, 2010 2:19 PM
 Subject: RE: [lfc] Re: FT Spoiler
 
 >
 > If that is aimed at me, and we are now down to "I understand TLW
 better
 > than
 > you do" then this conversation is redundant.
 >
 
 I think any invocation of TLW is pretty much redundant in the aftermath
 of the G&H era, but it does seem like too many people take the media
 shorthand of TLW only meaning that we don't sack managers when that is
 simply a side effect of the crucial point which is collective
 responsibility and an idea that Roy has completely ignored with his
 blame shifting and credit taking.
 
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