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Sol: My off load list with compliments:

Poulsen; Konchesky; Jovanovic; Deggen; ElZhar; Cole; Aurelio; Kyrgiakos; Jones; Ngog and Aquilani (if he decides to leave)

Edward Crusoe
who would be on your Offload List?

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Sol: I have read a few threads in the last two hours on TLW. I am not a fan
of either and would prefer if we kept away from both.

Iain Moneypenny

Don't shoot the messenger but the Barton thing is picking up a bit of steam.
18 page thread has burst into life on rawk since teatime.

Also, lots of gossip about us being back in with a chance of Young, him
going to the mancs no longer the sure thing it seemed

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Don't shoot the messenger but the Barton thing is picking up a bit of steam. 18 page thread has burst into life on rawk since teatime.

Also, lots of gossip about us being back in with a chance of Young, him going to the mancs no longer the sure thing it seemed
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Which is one reason that I think Ferguson is no tactical genius since he couldn't find an answer to the problem posed- twice. If he was simply arrogant and didn't want to adjust his team to meet the threat then he was stupid as well. There is no shame in having a gameplan that involves defending deep and hitting on the counter attack with a single pacy front man, we've done that in away games in Europe often enough in the past. Inter, last year, showed that it can be effective against this Barca side.

Khavar

> You need width and pace when you're faced with 11 men parking the proverbial
> bus in front of the goal (which Scum did not do against Barca).

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I think Rafa has also pointed out, and I agree with that opinion, that we don't necessarily need wingers in the true sense. We need good footballers who can play on the right or left and I'd prefer that over getting Lennon type of players. In a midfield of Houghton (very underrated), Molby, McMahon, and Whelan, none were wingers but a great midfield nonetheless. If only we could resurrect that lot. Pacy widemen tend to get injured a lot and I think good footballers (brain, skills) who can cross from the left or right, would be preferable. If Gerrard, as an example, were playing on the right of midfield, I'd prefer him to any other pacy winger out there because he can cross well and is an intelligent footballer.

Khavar
> To: lfc@yahoogroups.com
> From: ladyinred@kaltio.net
> Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 17:38:19 +0100
> Subject: Re: [lfc] Transfer Window/An Epic Swindle
>
> On Tuesday 31 May 2011, Khavar Dar wrote:
> > To Bill's law "pace is overrated" I will add "width is overrated", in the
> > traditional sense at least. I'm not sure who Barca's wide men were. Even
> > Alves tends to drift in rather than hug the line in the traditional winger
> > sense. They play through the center and good footballers will do for me
> > rather than average pacy "wingers" who more likely than not stay injured.
>
> You need width and pace when you're faced with 11 men parking the proverbial
> bus in front of the goal (which Scum did not do against Barca). When that
> happens the central areas get crowded and the Messi's of this world who are
> capable of getting throught do not grow on trees.
>
> It's a situation we've faced often - at Anfield in particular.
>
> We also need to get the best out of Carroll and a decent crosser will help do
> that.
>
> But I'd agree that we do not need an average winger. We've had several of
> them. We need a top class wide man
>


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I'd agree with Ed, Janet and Khavar.

I'd add a world class central midfielder in the mould of Xabi to that list, just that besides Xavi and Xabi himself, there is a dearth of such players around.

Hope KK can find another Molby (one of the best players ever).

--- On Wed, 1/6/11, ladyinred <ladyinred@kaltio.net> wrote:

From: ladyinred <ladyinred@kaltio.net>
Subject: Re: [lfc] Transfer Window/An Epic Swindle
To: lfc@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, 1 June, 2011, 12:30 AM

 

On Tuesday 31 May 2011, Senthil Kumar wrote:

> Just out of curiosity where do you think the transfer kitty needs to be

> most spent on - as in which positions?

A top quality pacey wide-man. Which side is open to debate. If you'd asked me

at Xmas, I'd have said a left winger. But Suarez seems to favour that side of

the pitch (although he's also great on the right) so now I'm not sure.

Possibly wide right. But we definitely need a man who can go for the byline,

stretch packed defences and feed in the sort of crosses that Carroll will

turn into goals.

At Xmas I'd also have said that we needed a left full-back. But I've been so

impressed by the lads who've come out of the academy and I'd hate to see them

just relegated to permanent reserves. Bizarrely Glen Johnson's game also

picked up when he switched sides, Flanno and Kelly have the right side

covered, so we may be okay at full back.

The conundrum is the centre back position. Carra's career is on the wane but

the whole defence seems more together when he plays and I'm convinced that

youngsters who came in benefitted from his presence. I think the stats show

that we tend to get better results when Agger plays (but I stand to be

corrected on that). However you never know when he's going to be fit. Skrtel

was shocking in the first half of the season but picked up enormously after

Kenny took over. But which Skrtel will turn up next season? And then there's

Kelly and Wilson. Both are centre backs but they are young and it's a

position where experience brings enormous benefits. I think I'd cash in on

Skrtel and Soto. I love the attitude of the latter but if there's a cup game

against lower league opposition I'd prefer we gave Wilson or Kelly a run out

at centre back. I think we can do better than Skrtel and need someone who is

an improvement in the air.

We probably need another striker to replace N'gog. But the second half of the

season showed that we can score goals without FT, Carroll has yet to show us

what he can do and then there's the likes of Pacheco.

Other than that I hope we don't go for too many signings. I think we need to

offload a fair number of players. But I'd prefer that we focussed on quality

rather than quantity in the transfer market and used the youngsters coming

through to fill out the squad because I think the changes Rafa started at The

Academy/Melwood are now bearing fruit.

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Out of interest, without considering the Club's ability to get replacements
for a moment, who would be on your Offload List?

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From: ladyinred
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 5:30 PM
To: lfc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [lfc] Transfer Window/An Epic Swindle

Other than that I hope we don't go for too many signings. I think we need to
offload a fair number of players. But I'd prefer that we focussed on quality
rather than quantity in the transfer market and used the youngsters coming
through to fill out the squad because I think the changes Rafa started at
The
Academy/Melwood are now bearing fruit.

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Probably because he had to concentrate more and just think about what he was
doing out on the left.

-----Original Message-----
From: ladyinred
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 5:30 PM
To: lfc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [lfc] Transfer Window/An Epic Swindle

At Xmas I'd also have said that we needed a left full-back. But I've been so
impressed by the lads who've come out of the academy and I'd hate to see
them
just relegated to permanent reserves. Bizarrely Glen Johnson's game also
picked up when he switched sides, Flanno and Kelly have the right side
covered, so we may be okay at full back.

On Tuesday 31 May 2011, Khavar Dar wrote:
> To Bill's law "pace is overrated" I will add "width is overrated", in the
> traditional sense at least. I'm not sure who Barca's wide men were. Even
> Alves tends to drift in rather than hug the line in the traditional winger
> sense. They play through the center and good footballers will do for me
> rather than average pacy "wingers" who more likely than not stay injured.

You need width and pace when you're faced with 11 men parking the proverbial
bus in front of the goal (which Scum did not do against Barca). When that
happens the central areas get crowded and the Messi's of this world who are
capable of getting throught do not grow on trees.

It's a situation we've faced often - at Anfield in particular.

We also need to get the best out of Carroll and a decent crosser will help do
that.

But I'd agree that we do not need an average winger. We've had several of
them. We need a top class wide man

On Tuesday 31 May 2011, Senthil Kumar wrote:

> Just out of curiosity where do you think the transfer kitty needs to be
> most spent on - as in which positions?

A top quality pacey wide-man. Which side is open to debate. If you'd asked me
at Xmas, I'd have said a left winger. But Suarez seems to favour that side of
the pitch (although he's also great on the right) so now I'm not sure.
Possibly wide right. But we definitely need a man who can go for the byline,
stretch packed defences and feed in the sort of crosses that Carroll will
turn into goals.

At Xmas I'd also have said that we needed a left full-back. But I've been so
impressed by the lads who've come out of the academy and I'd hate to see them
just relegated to permanent reserves. Bizarrely Glen Johnson's game also
picked up when he switched sides, Flanno and Kelly have the right side
covered, so we may be okay at full back.

The conundrum is the centre back position. Carra's career is on the wane but
the whole defence seems more together when he plays and I'm convinced that
youngsters who came in benefitted from his presence. I think the stats show
that we tend to get better results when Agger plays (but I stand to be
corrected on that). However you never know when he's going to be fit. Skrtel
was shocking in the first half of the season but picked up enormously after
Kenny took over. But which Skrtel will turn up next season? And then there's
Kelly and Wilson. Both are centre backs but they are young and it's a
position where experience brings enormous benefits. I think I'd cash in on
Skrtel and Soto. I love the attitude of the latter but if there's a cup game
against lower league opposition I'd prefer we gave Wilson or Kelly a run out
at centre back. I think we can do better than Skrtel and need someone who is
an improvement in the air.

We probably need another striker to replace N'gog. But the second half of the
season showed that we can score goals without FT, Carroll has yet to show us
what he can do and then there's the likes of Pacheco.

Other than that I hope we don't go for too many signings. I think we need to
offload a fair number of players. But I'd prefer that we focussed on quality
rather than quantity in the transfer market and used the youngsters coming
through to fill out the squad because I think the changes Rafa started at The
Academy/Melwood are now bearing fruit.